But either he wasn't tryin, or he was completely stock. Mine is lightly modified, and she still has more torque than most 300tt's that are fully modded. You can ask yo boys at Z1 what they thought when I took it over there- I think John's still recovering from his neck injury. It's honestly the torqueiest street car I've ever driven/ridden in. My s4 will pretty much toast my 300, and that's with stock turbos on the audi. Just a thought... [img BORDER=0 SRC="http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTA4MDI0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg">